Duncan believes that 'not suing has wrongly damaged his reputation', because his father's name can never properly be cleared. Subscribe to OffTheBall's YouTube channel for more videos, like us Stokoe knew he was going to have to sell his prodigious talent, and had approached Bill Shankly to see if he was interested. Eventually with Revie your mind was full of too much you could end up a nervous wreck, said former England striker Mick Channon. New Leeds United Manager Brian Clough cuts a lonely figure at the training ground on his first day at the club. The first known instance of a dossier being used was in the 1963/64 season, when Revie asked first-team coach Syd Owen to look ata young player he was interested in signing. Ive even got dossiers on former players like Norman Hunter from his time at Bristol City, and on Leeds players that were being looked at for England in 1974/75, when Don was managing the national team.. Revie managed as he played; subtle, sly, full of plans and looking for control. Just prior to taking the job at Sunderland, Stokoe had a marvellously talented Scottish midfielder called Tony Green at Blackpool. Inicio; Servicios. On 11 July 1977, Daily Mail readers read that Revie had left the England manager's job. Revie had previously applied to be Bournemouth manager and asked Harry Reynolds, a Leeds director, to write his reference. To be honest I think the role the dossiers played in our success was exaggerated, says former midfielder Johnny Giles. At the training ground he introduced a regime that made Leeds the fittest and most technically proficient club in the Football League, including hiring ballet dancers to teach the players about balance and imposing dietary and nutritional standards. For once, Brian Clough had nothing to say. He signed youth terms with his local club Newcastle, and made his full debut in 1950. The people I care about, the family, the Leeds people, the people from Yorkshire, they all know the calibre of the person.' His technical dossiers on opponents were not welcomed either. The one timeI remember Don getting it wrong was when we played Real Zaragoza and he had the pitch watered because he didnt think the Spaniards liked to play in the wet, but we were two down after 10 minutes at Elland Road, recalls Gray. A train driver by day, Sanderson was obsessed with the minutiae of the game: in his council house he held team meetings, distributing dossiers on local rivals and showing a tactical nous that would have shamed many First Division clubs. He also was an emotional man, given to show his affection and displeasure with equal ease. The Earl of Harewood, who was Leeds president during Revies tenure, believed that the managers superstitious nature and negativity at times hindered the teams progress. But although his successes outstrip those of most contemporaries, Revie has never been revered, or regarded with warmth. 5ft 7in tall, average build, right-sided, but can play off left. 'Richard Stott asked me to get involved, but everything was already written, really.' Wind NE 15 mph. Of the five men, only Clough could boast a Division One title to resume. Revie's father was an unemployed joiner; his mother, a washerwoman, died when he was a child. Plays where the ball is. He never profited from the allegation, which he repeated hundreds of times before his death in 2004. An unfavourable decision to demote Gray and replace him with Brian Kidd was one of the many catalysts that led to United's new Millennium decline. One of his great managerial gifts was an ability to spot and nurture young talent. After the disciplinary committee gave out its inevitable guilty verdict, its punishment was severe: a 10-year ban from English football. Kevin Keegan flew in from Spain and Lawrie McMenemy, the former Southampton manager, was there too. A 2-0 defeat in Rome in November 1976 meant hopes were slim almost from the outset. 'The people who made these accusations - we didn't have to bribe them to be able to beat them,' Peter Lorimer says. Plus tips on how to play better and interviews with the biggest names. Traduzione Context Correttore Sinonimi Coniugazione. Dribbles off his right. There never was a campaign featuring Doctor Who, Brian Clough, Don Revie, et al. Brian Howard Clough OBE (/ k l f / KLUF; 21 March 1935 - 20 September 2004) was an English football player and manager, primarily known for his successes as a manager with Derby County and Nottingham Forest.He is one of four managers to have won the English league with two different clubs. Eventually Peter Reid dismissed him from the coaching staff altogether, but a few months later he took on the poisoned chalice and navigated Leeds United through the last rites of their Premier . The duty of compiling the dossiers was entrusted to members of his faithful backroom staff, including Owen and assistant manager Maurice Lindley. Rodney Belfitt, later to sign for Sunderland, had put Leeds ahead in another humdinger of a game. His decision to quit his post was given a further degree of "spice" that it probably didn't need by an event somewhat outside Revie's control. At the back of my mind, the bribe is always there. Everywhere he looked, he could see the ghost of his predecessor. Clough and RevieThe Rivals Who Changed the Face of English Football. When an opposing player stepped up to take a free-kick against Celtic, everyone in the wall would just charge and shout, and try to frighten the player to death. He was also, however, known as 'Don Readies'. He was always an evil man to me.'. The FA fined Ball 3,000, even though he had ended up at Everton, and not Revie's Leeds. Revie certainly is a divisive character within football. 'When I get to know you better Revie, I shall call you Don,' Thompson said. Bob Stokoe, the Sunderland manager who had outwitted Revie in the 1973 FA Cup final, was the most compelling witness. Gettingthe best players in, and then providing theright environment for good players and good characters to flourish. "Less than a year later, on May 26 1989, Don Revie, surrounded by Elsie (and their children) Duncan and Kim died peacefully in his sleep. Peter Lorimer played for a hugely successful Leeds United side under Don Revie but . 'They genuinely hated each other,' Duncan recalls. But we didnt have that available to us at that time, says Lorimer. They had class. Shankly was apparently horrified at this story. The fascinating story behind the infamous Clough-Revie interview. Sprake refused and Leeds drew 3-3, losing the League title to Manchester United on goal average. Mitchell, so that they would have to confront each other and look at each other and engage each other. A crush barrier collapsed at the Lowfield/Scratchings corner and many supporters spilled onto the pitch. And unfortunately forDon, the press picked up on the 25% and ridiculed him as a result, Keegan wrote in the foreword to Richard Sutcliffes authorised biography, Revie: Revered and Reviled. Alan Ball, meanwhile, revealed clandestine meetings with Revie on Saddleworth Moor in the mid-1960s, when Revie wanted to sign him from Blackpool. 'I was never aware of it and I don't think any of our players were ever aware of it happening. Nor was the move a success: defeat in Czechoslovakia and a failure to beat Portugal led to qualifying failure. They feigned injuries, harassed officials and pinched, kicked and hit opponents. Shankly, perhaps thinking this was a ruse to get him to buy asked why he did not want to do business with Revie. I was going through my dads stuff three or four years ago and I came across about 10 brown A4 folders dating back to 1964. Partly sunny More Details. At Leeds it was the start of the transition after Don Revie and Brian Clough. At an official dinner, Revie objected to Sir Harold's habit of referring to him by his surname. So, what was so dislikeable about Revie, and what was the rancour between Stokoe and Revie all about? The overly superstitious Revie famously had a fear of ornamental elephants and feathered birds, and once summoned a gypsy to Elland Road to remove a curse that he believed had been placed on the ground to stop his side winning. 'We had 15 years of what no man gets,' Lorimer says. Wiki User. Three months later Holland humiliated England at Wembley, Johan Cruyff and his team-mates at times toying with the home side - the 2-0 friendly loss was likened by the press to the famous 6-3 defeat by Hungary in 1953. Revie combined their talents with astute signings such as the veteran inside-forward Bobby Collins, from Everton, and Manchester United's Johnny Giles. There was a problem. Due to Revies meticulous nature, errors such as this were few and far between. Playing in midfield for Leeds United from 1963 until 1979, Lorimer was part of the squad Brian Clough inherited from Don Revie. The managerial greats grew up in houses just a short walk apart in. Always looking for the ball fairly clever turns quickly not brave. Across the land, The Damned United film has us eulogising about Brian Clough's genius and in north London . Brian Clough is arguably one of the most successful managers in domestic football, having won 10 trophies during his career. on Facebook or follow us on Twitter Revie of course is a revered figure at Leeds. Despite the Scots cynicism, it was important that he was aware of the contents: Bremner was the man charged with carrying out Revies instructions on the pitch. A result ofdeep paranoia rather than a desire for preparedness that would later undermine his reign as England manager? Stokoe obviously made sure Leeds got as little as possible out of less fashionable Bury. Beset with rumours of illegal payments to players, the Bank of England scandal hit the club with a force that would reverberate for a decade and more. "The folders contained information about the performance of each Leeds player during a game in 15-minute blocks. He died in Edinburgh in 1989 aged just 61 years old. It wasDon Revies team, Don Revies loyal backroom staff, andin the managersoffice sat on Don Revies former desksat a pile of Don bloody Revies dossiers. 'His training ideas were ahead of their time,' Lorimer agrees. This injury ultimately ended his career. Alzheimers and Motor Neurone Disease are very hot topics within the world of contact sports today, I suspect there is more to come from that situation as medical science increases our knowledge and highlights the risks of repeated head trauma. Brian Clough, in contrast, retains a strong posthumous presence in popular culture, inspiring books and films against the backdrop of his achievements at Derby and Nottingham Forest. He tells me that Revie asked him to 'tap up' fellow Wales internationals Colin Green and Terry Hennessey when Leeds played Birmingham on the last day of the 1964-65 season. Syd Owen would pass them on for Revieto read out, they would last about an hour,by which time the lads would be bored silly. But I don't think . There is of course a rich history of rancour between Revies Leeds and Sunderland leading up to the 1973 Cup Final. If our team ran into trouble, Billy had the responsibility of changing or adapting the tactics.. There was no indication that the man being mourned had been the most innovative manager of his generation. He wouldnt allow that. Referees were watched ahead of theclubs European matches to see what sort of offences they clamped down on, and what they would allow sides to get away with. "If today a producer of a programme managed to get Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger into the same studio in just two hours negotiations - because that's what it took by the producer of the Calendar programme on Yorkshire TV to get Clough and Revie together - it's a sensational journalistic scoop," he said, adding that the presenter Austin Mitchell was not a sports journalist or massively interested in football, rather being a news journalist and was "guided through the interview" by his producer via an earpiece. 'They also had a hell of a lot of skill, too, but they were still a bloody nightmare.' He had that for every single player, so he must have had 11 people in the stand taking notes. When Revie was made player-manager in 1961, the . I was there for the brilliant game at Maine Road, and of course Hillsborough, where we made Bob Stokoe cry by chanting his name, refusing to leave the ground until he came and gave us a wave. Duncan Revie believes there was another, serious, problem. Players lose you games, not tactics. Gambling problem? You would think you would get to know if that sort of thing was happening, but certainly we never got to know anything. So Revie determined to secure his future. I was although nobody would dare tell anyof the coaches this, and certainly not the boss., Even Revies loyal servant Billy Bremner sometimes struggled to maintain his concentration when the contents of adossier were being relayed to the team. Get insight to top players, instructions & drills and extensive coverage of equipment. Thank you for signing up to Four Four Two. Five men were up for consideration for the England manager's job. Revie is the classic corrupt coach who encourages his players to cheat and focuses on winning games and championships through superstition and foul play. Our pre-match discussion had laid down guidelines for the game, but we had to expect our opponents to formulate plans of their own to stop ours from working smoothly. He seemed unable to settle on his best XI, changing his starting line-up every game. To them, quite simply, he was the best. Revie was widely disliked. AZ, CO, CT, IL, IN, IA, KS, LA, (select parishes), MD, MI, NH, NJ, NY, OH, OR, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY, CA-ONT only.Eligibility restrictions apply. He was a player in a time of rolling contracts, tied to a statutory maximum wage of around 20 a week, and his boyhood hero, Wilf Mannion, ended up as a tea boy in a Middlesbrough factory. 'It was probably as happy as I've seen my mum and dad. Probably indicative of Revies relationship with Sunderland, his one full season in 57/58 ended in relegation for the first time ever from the top division of English football. ', Having won promotion to the First Division in 1964, Leeds finished runners-up in both the League and the FA Cup in their first season back, and over the next decade never finished lower than fourth. 'It was ludicrous in the extreme.' His Leeds dynasty and team were both revered, feared and loathed in equal measure. Please refresh the page and try again. Whilst he won a legal appeal in 1978, the judge was not complimentary about his reliability as a witness or his candour! Clough made no secret of his dislike for his opposite number, a feud which was . He had a great time in the Middle East,' Duncan says. Subsequent disclosures by some of his players lay testament to his tactics and strategies some underhand and some illegal. Few outside Yorkshire lamented their recent relegation to League One - the old Division Three, from which Revie once saved them - and flirtations with bankruptcy. This both ended McPheats top-level career and commenced the bitter animosity between the clubs that was to last a decade and some. Donald George Revie was born on 10 July 1927 in Depression-stricken Middlesbrough. Indeed, he continuously strivedto make sure that the dossiers were as accurate as possible. I know Ball said that he used to do crosswords on the back of the dossiers, recalls Duncan Revie. He was offered the job at his first love, Sunderland, in November 1972, despite the oft-repeated story that Brian Clough and Don Revie had both been interviewed by chairmen Keith Collings for the job. If someone kicks me, he kicks all 11 of us.' By clicking yes you confirm your accept our privacy policy. Greenhoff certainly took him at his word, he looked closer to the halfway line when he fell! On the same day the trainer Les Cocker (not pictured) announced he was leaving the club to join former Leeds United boss Don Revie in the England management role. In The Damned Utd, David Peace's novel about Brian Clough's six weeks as Leeds manager, Revie appears as a ghost, stalking out Clough. I think Dons weakness was the fear of not knowing everything there was to be known about the opposing side, he recalled. We used to joke, 'Are we playing a non-league team or Real Madrid?'. A decade after Brian Clough's death, former friends and colleagues remember the man who "was always right". Brian Clough had come and gone in 44 days, followed almost as briefly . Bremner was persuaded to stay, moved to a more central role and eventually became Revie's captain; the surly and undisciplined Charlton, previously an abysmal trainer, flourished under the new coaching regime, becoming the cornerstone of a young, tenacious defence. This was the town of JB Priestley's English Journey 'whose chief passions were for beer and football'. The image of 'Dirty Leeds' was reinforced on the terraces, where their supporters earned a reputation for viciousness. With many of the great 1960s managers retired or at the end of their careers, Revie was arguably the finest in the country. Nowadays if a British club is playing a European side, theyre able to get films of the opposition so that they can sit and watch them during the week. Frank O'Farrell, who has died aged 94, was a footballer for West Ham and Ireland who went on to manage Manchester United during the troubled period following the retirement of Sir Matt Busby; he . But it was Brian's scathing attacks on Don Revie and his team at Leeds United that caused Sam 'to fear that the Derby club was in for the high jump from the Football Association'. FEATUREExplaining Marcelo Bielsa: How the Argentine came to influence football's greatest managers (opens in new tab), ANALYSISFinancial Fair Play vs fairy tales: the Football Leagues intractable fiscal conundrum (opens in new tab), But what made Don so successful atLeeds was years of good practice. You heard stories that sometimes Maurice and Syd found it difficult to get into away grounds, says former Leeds and Scotland winger Eddie Gray. With every successful team people want to know the secret, so they look for superficial things like the dossiers, or what players had for their pre-match meal, or even the playing bingo before matches when we were away from home. Nottingham Forest: Ben Dore, Dore on Tour. They enjoyed the sunshine, they enjoyed the golf, they enjoyed Dubai. Download the brand new OffTheBall App in the . Revie had already left to manage England, and with him the family spirit that Lorimer thought had underpinned their success. Stokoe typically made his feelings known to Clough and the referee. Then came the muscle-wasting illness that would take his life, motor neurone disease. Sprake had spoken out only after being paid 14,000. An intelligent but not especially quick player, he rose to prominence at Maine Road, developing a role as a deep-lying centre-forward, modelled on that of the great Hungarian player Nandor Hidegkuti. Clough allegedly never forgot the slight. Thats not to say that the odd mistakedidnt slip in from time to time. Although they may have become second nature to the Leeds team, Revies methods were so forward-thinking that opposing players didnt know what to make of them. In discussing the situation with Shankly, Stokoe let him know that Leeds were very keen and had offered over the asking price but he was reluctant to sell to Revie. Revie retorted: 'When I get to know you better, Thompson, I shall call you Sir Harold.'. He organised social nights for the players, including rounds of carpet bowls, dominos and bingo. 'Our whole ethos was built on loyalty,' Lorimer says. He would occupy the role of player-assistant manager, and then player-manager, as he began to fashion a team in his likeness. But he stuck with underperformers, such as Bremner, who was unhappy playing in an unfamiliar outside-right role and homesick for his native Scotland, and Jack Charlton, 'a one-man awkward squad', nurturing their previously unrealised potential. It seemed an oddity and not at all in keeping with the occasion, or with the laughing box image of my team in the final days leading into the final. Growing up under the shadow of Ayresome Park, football was an escape. Terms at draftkings.com/sportsbook. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. Likes to be on the ball. 'They had aggression. It was all new. However, I digress. Clough avait pour sa part . The two had spent most of the last decade drifting further and. World Cup winner Alan Ball who was made captain of the national teamby Revie, only to later be ruthlessly dropped was one of the most vocal critics, starting a campaign againstthe England manager in the national press deridingRevies methods. He was 11 years old when WWII started,. For some players in particular, this methodical analytical approach provided invaluable information. Many years later Peter Lorimer, in his autobiography would confirm the belief by many who watched Leeds in that era, that they played to con and pressure referees, and would target certain opposition players. The future England bossbelievedthat the documents were particularly useful when it cameto informing players about teamsfrom lesser-known nations. The men who led Sunderland and Leeds out onto the Wembley pitch on this day in 1973 had a long and controversial back-story marred by money, power and deceit. We finished third, third, fourth and third in the league - but that wasn't good enough for Leeds back then," reflects . . Elland Road is Revie's stadium, he built it.". Looking back on this, I realise it was the first time I had come face to face with the fact that money power and connections can actually get you what you want. Haba durado slo 44 das como reemplazante de Don Revie, el otro entrevistado, . The next, he began to transform them. But the evidence against Revie is shaky. Thursday 20 October 2022 16:19. The former Foreign Secretary grew up in Leeds and her father was an emeritus professor of Mathematics at the University of Leeds. This was where I landed on Cup Final day. Opponents were so fearful of Revies dossiers that they would go to great lengths to stop his backroom team compiling them. He stopped playing in 1964 and managed Bury for one more season, before spells managing Charlton, Rochdale, Carlisle and Blackpool. Air Quality Excellent. Words by: Mark Smith . Brian Clough was one of the considered to take over from Revie in 1977. It takes about 25 minutes to walk from Revie's childhood home to Brian. Or why not treat yourself? 'Don Revie's so-called family had more in keeping with the mafia than Mothercare,' Brian Clough said. Don Revie and Brian Clough were born a brisk walk away from each other in Middlesbrough, in 1927 and 1935 respectively. Keeps the ball well. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Sprake told Stott that there had been attempts to fix the Wolves game - a claim he subsequently retracted - as well as several other matches. Sometimes you had dossiers on players youd played against two or three weeks earlier and you already knew them inside out, but youd still sit there and listen because there might be a bit of informationin there about set-plays that had slipped your mind, says Hunter. A bitter divorce to an unhappy marriage Don Revie resigned as manager of the England team on 12 July 1977 - in spectacular fashion.