However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. Examine the hamon with a magnifying glass. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. The Phillips screw was only patented in 1932, and hadn't caught on in most of the world by WWII. The first question to be answered - is it a real sword or a modern replica or an Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. By the way, the MILLIONS of copy ROLEXS have not slowed the demand for the real thing, or stopped prices rising. Yes, those are strangely too perfect and not a recognized font. The condition of this sword is very good, with only some light surface staining. That's why I addressed here. That is an important part of identifying the authenticity of an NCO. That is not true. 20062021 Nihonto Message Board But as I have been at this for a while, I'm seeing how much better the reproductions are getting, and I realize that every bit of help they can get by reading posts like this, helps them make their fakes even better. Sorry for the bad news. $159.50. Question Regarding WWII NCO Shin-Gunto Fuchi Markings - Sword Forum But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. I very much doubt that it would matter, but even someone with a repro would be able to use that information to create a fake. It is something I very much dread, having to carefully vet every sword I see, but that's what happens when something increases in value at a steady rate each and every year. Any so called "ninja sword" is pure fantasy. The brown paint on the hilt has mostly worn away, as it did not really stick well to the aluminum. Akunin Lets hope the guys that make the fakes arent reading all this and learning what to improve. most certainly mean the blade is handmade. will show tiny dots/specks (nioi and/or nie) along and between the border of the hamon and the rest of the blade. I liked the look of the Type 32 but all I've found was deepeeka. Something went wrong. The scabbards and hilts are usually designed to resemble bamboo This scabbard also has an original leather field cover, which has discolored and shrunk over time. If the tsuka can be dismanteld from sword with out removing the sarute and barrel, its a fake! NCOs will progress into the minefield of German militaria in the next couple of decades. Carved bone and carved ivory sword mountings almost always have untempered, soft steel blades. June 23, 2016. like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. I agree and have never been able to put it into words like you just did. Sword steel of the army standard , Blade length: 83.6, Curvature: 1.35, machine made, tempering in oils, with a fuller and no Hamon, Overall length: 100.2, Made in the Tky Artillery Arsenal Type 32 Gunt is a government supply noncommissioned officer sword enacted in 1889 (August 23, Meiji 32). These were made as tourist items from the 1870's through the 1930's. Have always thought the comments about not tipping off the forgers are just plain silly.I still do.The image of some rough factory in China where they are turning these outand some guy on a computer somewhere shouting out in Chinese into the factory "Hey guys! Rare 1st Type with matching numbers "4428" on blade and scabbard. Mission Ready, Qualified & Competent, On Time Execution! Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" (shin guntou) style. I avoided buying into German WW2 helmets because of the fakes out there and now I've entered into another minefield. WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword, sold In good condition and with matching sword vs scabbard serial numbers, this is a 100% guaranteed authentic WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword / katana. The Scabbardlooks to have some paint left, however it is under the leather cover, which we have not removed, so we do not know how much still remains. Many of the better The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people. Check the military sword page for examples of WW II era Obviously I can't be sure, but that's my guess anyway. Cut-out version brass tsuba. Original WWII Japanese Army Type 95 NCO Katana Sword with Matching painted wood figures. This example has a matching serial number 93225 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. I recently took the plunge and made my first Japanese sword purchase. Fakes never get it right. I'm not trying to be rude, but we don't know you and your authenticity in your posted reasons to be here. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. NCO's sword, Kokura arsenal stamp. Agree with others had to study it for a bit, since it is not an obvious reproduction - but at the end of the day, it has issues! They are getting better with the Kokura cannonballs, but this one - the lines are to thin, the balls too big. Many, many WW II era swords will show prominent grain (hada). The blade must be examined in its entirety and not judged solely Sword canes (Shikomi-zue) mostly have very low grade blades. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. This prevents the sword from falling when the soldier is running. Yeah I guess Japanese military swords don't get much attention from the well known names. in WW II military mounts. As above100% fakejust look at the fit on the saya throatBut yes they are getting betterBought a sword at a recent big militaria fair,actually two swordsleft them with the sellers instead of carrying them around when I came to pick them up was approached by a very polite Chinese fella who offered to buy them at a premium off meHe didn't hide anything said he was sending them back to ChinaAt the end of the show he had bags fullhe looked like ' Buckin Bronco ' carrying them away ! Vice versa, antique blades are occassionally found the market. Etchings. Consult someone who is trained in tsuka-maki if you need to have a handle re-built. I think it's always worth spending the extra time to study these "high end fakes/copies" because they are getting better. I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. Upload or insert images from URL. China has a rising group of wealthy individuals who are buying up cars, gold, realeatate, antiques and art at an alarming rate. WW II era swords have been put into shirasaya or If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Bone tanto and swords (see below) fall into this group. General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. Matching serial numbers 31123. Blade is 26 1/4 inches long, with an overall length of 36 1/4inches. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. 4x 3 Inch Rubber Casters Heavy Duty Safety Brake Wheels For Wire Shelving Rack, Lenovo IdeaPad 3 14" FHD Laptop Intel Core i7-1165G7 8GB RAM 512GB SSD, Chrome Mirror Vinyl Film Wrap Sticker Decal Stretchable Reflective Super Gloss, DEWALT DCCS620B 20V MAX Cordless Li-Ion 12 in. Traditionally this function is assigned to the Habaki (blade collar). There is a suspicion that this is a fake. Overall the fit and finish is definitely far above a replica, which can be seen in the photos. Does anyone know if theres a production dating list for the different manufacturers of the type 95 nco swords ? The biggest giveaway are the stamps. WW II era machine made swords have an etched temper line, not a true temper line (hamon) made antique blades were left unsigned or have had their signatures (mei) lost over time. Contact one of them for assistance. Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. There are some very knowledgeable and experienced folk here and you can trust their deduction. no interest to Japanese sword collectors. All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. Blade length approximately 27 1/2 inches . A great early war example at a low price; yours for ? Most sword canes were produced in the late 19th Century - early 20th Century. Sincerely, Eugene Quote vajo Gold Tier 5.8k Location:Germany / Bavaria Name: Chris Sch. Steel is magnetic - aluminum is not. I don't want to help them any more than necessary. Most WW II era blades are not sharpened all the down to the habaki (collar). This being despite the machine made blade an cast aluminum hilt. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. Greetings. Sword Corner Type 32 | PDF | Sword | Personal Weapons - Scribd locking mechanism works very well. When ANY doubt exists as to the authenticity or There are also numerous reproduction and fake Japanese swords on Your email address will not be published. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. This service used example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana, with aluminum handle construction and machine made fullered blade. Does the blade show a true temper line (hamon)? NEVER CLEAN THE TANG OF A JAPANESE SWORD OR TAMPER WITH IT IN ANY WAY!!! I am extremely thankful for the help/knowledge shared in this forum. The scabbard is painted the correct green color, and the spacing from the top to the hanging ring is the correct 3 inches. Save japanese type 95 sword to get e-mail alerts and updates on your eBay Feed. A number of opinions have been provided, some with hints of the issues. See how many more you can pick! Required fields are marked *. The scabbard exhibits about 70% of its original olive brown. By The best place to look is at the serial Numbers. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 05:55. These are all machine made and are not classified as "Nihonto". WW2 Japanese NCO Sword - Matching #s, First Type (Copper Handle Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) Type 95 NCO Shin Gunto. Close up and of kissaki and bohi termination is a must. Paste as plain text instead, Steves last post real or copy? I completely agree with Bill here. I admit that I've had to look at it a couple of times. I just want an accurate reproduction. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. I'll be an optimist Did he say to use as the basis for copies? Pasted as rich text. Matching serial numbers 31123. Around $1.000. The machine-made blade is 26 inches long. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords and scabbards were frequently . I offered to send photos or provide opinions from experienced collector's. C $158.47 + C $66.38 . I agree. Identification The saya These take that shape of various dragon figures, Japanese peasants, fish etc. You cannot paste images directly. Obvious two issues are the scabbard pattern and additional screw. Here is my last IJA type 95 copper handle nco sword the I own. Most swords do not have matching numbers because somewhere along the life of the sword the scabbard was changed. this rare early solid copper handled sword, serial number 631 is all matching and it is also one of the very few known to exist that still has the original leather tassel hanger (saru-te). This looks good from a distance, but up close the details reveal the fake. A subreddit for enthusiasts, practitioners, collectors, and investigators of swords (and related historical weapons). Though i think its great that the militaria collectors can help each other look out for the fakes! Clear editor. I'm not going to go into details. An elite marksman. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. During the WW II era, many machine made blades The hilt is complete with a functional metal locking spring tab that secures the blade to the scabbard. Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. more then I would pay but I'm grinch, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WW2-Japanese-Type-95-NCO-Sword/222687760837?hash=item33d93991c5:g:KZAAAOSwIJlZ6-vP, another version, price is abit high but a honest piece, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-WW2-Japanese-Shin-Gunto-NCO-Samurai-Sword-extremely-rare-variation-3/332424959489?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D48795%26meid%3D4f20fff958304da4af55f1ba88fb7e90%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D222687760837&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. Usually the copies are considerably lower, making it very obvious. Even so, enough to fool a novice. NCO Katanas were issued to soldiers who did not want to take their family sword to battle or who came from poor families that did not have swords to pass down through the generations. National Guard Marksmanship Training Center. Truly disappointing. By law, Japanese citizens were forbidden to own swords. T95 NCO swords had copper hilts, or later, aluminum ones, never brass. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. 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